Billie Eilish looks cool and stylish on the cover of Elle‘s Women In Music October 2019 issue, which is out on September 24.

Here’s what the 17-year-old “ocean eyes” star had to say…

On being authentic and not setting out to be antipop: “When you’re trying to come off a certain way, it’s not gonna work. I was just making songs with my brother. Now it’s like a thing: I’m this artist who’s going against the whatever-the-f–k.” She puts her hands up. “Where?! I wasn’t saying, ‘F–k pop!’ I was just making what I wanted.”

On why quitting Twitter was “the best decision of my life”: “I was in Europe, in one of the worst headspaces I’ve been in. That’s when I realized, ‘You know what? Bye!’ There are so many things I can’t stop, but I can delete Twitter.” On Instagram, it’s easier to ignore comments. Twitter is nothing but comments, and she found herself looking at every one. “I have too much love for myself—I don’t need to see all these opinions. Shoo!”

On finally being able to feel happy and being hurt by cynics who accused her of faking depression: “It hurt me to see that. I was a 16-year-old girl who was really unstable. I’m in the happiest place of my life, and I didn’t think that I would even make it to this age. I haven’t been happy for years. I didn’t think I would be happy again. And here I am—I’ve gotten to a point where I’m finally okay. It’s not because I’m famous. It’s not because I have a little more money. It’s so many different things: growing up, people coming into your life, certain people leaving your life. All I can say now is, For anybody who isn’t doing well, it will get better. Have hope. I did this s–t with fame riding on my shoulders. And I love fame! Being famous is great, but it was horrible for a year. Now I love what I do, and I’m me again. The good me. And I love the eyes on me.”

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